Tuesday, October 30, 2007

Google vs. YouTube?

About a month ago, Microsoft Live passed MSN in daily rank; you should expect to see this reflected in Alexa's three-month rank any day now. The next sites in line for succession --- MySpace and Facebook --- currently lack the reach to upset the Top5. In the middle of this Microsoft dance are Google and YouTube. The following graph illustrates some interesting trends.
As you can see, for the last five weekends YouTube (in teal) has out-ranked not only Live (in black) but also Google (in red), making it the #2 site on the internet. This raises two questions: 1.) Really? and, 2.) Why? To understand this trend, let's first take a look the corresponding reach and traffic graphs.

These graphs show that Google always has more unique users per day than YouTube but that every weekend, Google loses traffic whereas YouTube gains. This is not so far-fetched: the other search engines in the Top5 --- Yahoo! and Live --- show the same general trend. In fact, youtube.com has (for several months) had more overall traffic than google.com. This is also not far-fetched because of the different natures of these sites. When people go to Google, they are searching for content that is likely elsewhere. On the other hand, people that go to YouTube are going for the content on YouTube. Taking into account that (in general) search engines are a means and video sites are an end, it is not unreasonable that YouTube could get more pageviews per user (and more traffic) than Google.

This isn't the whole story, though. Another big difference between Google and YouTube is the way they use international domains, or ccTLDs. If I go to http://www.google.co.uk, I get the British version of Google and that traffic counts for google.co.uk, not for google.com. If I go to http://www.youtube.co.uk, I get redirected to http://uk.youtube.com and that traffic counts for youtube.com. In the Alexa Top100, Google is represented by their .com plus 19 ccTLDs. Each of these international sites pulls in between 0.1% and 0.3% of the daily traffic Alexa sees. Adding that to the 2.2% pulled in by google.com, Google's search sites get at least 6.0% of daily pageviews, which beats YouTube's 3.0% hands down. (Also of note: this beats Yahoo!'s 4.8% and they pull the same ccTLD trick that YouTube does, when possible. There are some exceptions --- yahoo.co.jp is an example --- due to individual registry rules.)

So the answers to the questions posed above depend on what you mean by "Google," i.e. whether it is a site, a brand, or a company. The first would be only google.com; the second would include google.com, google.fr, google.com.br, google.de, etc. The last would include those properties plus YouTube, Orkut, Blogger, et al. The point is that those are important questions to ask when doing traffic analysis on the web. Be wary of analyses that fail to take these kinds of issues into account, especially if the analyst incorrectly uses statistics. (Luckily, some people get it right.)

87 comments:

choice said...

What the hell does youtube have to do with google? Thay are two completely different types of websites. Completely different genres. One for videos and the other for all sorts of searches?
Ya, sure. There is google video but why comapre it with youtube? soz, but i think you have wated your time making this dicussion.

Rockers Its Dangerous said...

I would have expected a far more sophisticated analysis from Alexa, an Amazon Company.

YouTube.com is a dominant market leader. Far more of a NICHE, Far more specialized with tremendous user loyalty. Read the description below as posted on Alexa. It is 1/3 the size of Google with respect to unique monthly's. It delivers a worldwide product at a fraction of the cost, infrastructure and ego.

YouTube is a way to get your videos to the people who matter to you. Upload, tag and share your videos worldwide!
Approx Unique Monthly Visitors 39M

Google, on the other hand is a massive, corporate giant seeking to take over the world. They control the almighty page rank, seach engine placement and now they tout the goal of housing the largest library in the world of text, images, video, and all data cataloged. Read the description below as posted on Alexa.

GOOGLE-Enables users to search the Web, Usenet, and images. Features include PageRank, caching and translation of results, and an option to find similar pages. The company's focus is developing search technology.
Approx Unique Monthly Visitors 119M

Alexa however is the one blogging. Often to have their name, tags, keywords and content in the same article as their competitors, friends and or key alliances. Read their Bio....

Alexa Provides a search powered by Google, and a directory from the ODP. Directory listings can be ordered by popularity, user rating or alphabetically, and there are links to Alexa's information on each site
Estimated Monthly Uniques: 379,015

Maybe Alexa is just trying to blog about this ridiculous comparison between Google and YouTube for their own benefit. Certainly, their ranking could use it.

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Neukin said...

Im sure the analysis was taking into effect that you knew Google owns YouTube...

tmwwtw said...

it doesn't matter because youtube is owned by google

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YouTube.com is a dominant market leader. Far more of a NICHE, Far more specialized with tremendous user loyalty. Read the description below as posted on Alexa. It is 1/3 the size of Google with respect to unique monthly's. It delivers a worldwide product at a fraction of the cost, infrastructure and ego.

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Edward Palonek said...

Edward Palonek writes: At the end of the day does it really matter? Youtube is owned by google. Google is rolling out its new phone and is making some major changes to youtube to allow video streaming on their phone. Google has two competitors MS and YH. MS is naturally lagging behind, YH is not making much progress. Youtube is about introduce major changes which will even make it more attractive.
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Lionel Remigio said...

I trusted Alexa in some way. Not anymore.

After placing 3 different systems to measure traffic for my site( including Google Analytics) and see the traffic going up until November 7th, Alexa is lowering the rank of my site.

When that traffic was a little lower I was growing in Alexa Rankings.

So, how I can trust Alexa now?

Derrick Pallas said...

@Lionel: Rank is relative. Even if your reach, traffic, or attention goes up, your rank can go down if other sites gain reach, traffic, and attention more significantly. Please see our page about traffic rank.

Apoorv Khatreja said...

So what is the final verdict? Google vs. YouTube, who wins?

Chris said...

Interesting read. We recently posted a video for a segment that aired on The Today Show about www.freethingsusa.com and also on Janice Liebermans blog at ivillage.com. The link to that blog is http://consumersmarts.ivillage.com/home/2007/10/freebies.html and on youtube.com at http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LXM8Rt6f0 and have not seen much happening on youtube.com

Edward Palonek said...

Edward Palonek the verdict is still in the making. But from the looks of it. Youtube will be the final winner, but then who says that there only has to be one winner? Yahoo has a better quality videos, YouTube has more...
cons and pros to each
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turbo said...

now we know why Google has bought youtube a few month ago, much money for much traffic...

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I really don't think it matters considering there both owned by the same company.
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Hendsmaster said...

I agreed with choice, you should compare google with same category..

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kanosig said...

Wow, I am sorry about all those comments. A lot of people seem to have no clue what your article was about, and misinterpret the point of it. It was a very informative post; unfortunately, it went over most of these peoples' heads.

Casey Galatos said...

Hey!
I have a query. How do I get the Alexa rank of a site on any particular date say for instance on 18th January 2004.
Please let me know as it would be of much help

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i think youtube goes up rapidly and can reach to google :) why not ? :)

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You do know that Google owns YouTube.....

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Zoran Stankovic said...

Quote From Gazeteler;

"...but it doesn't matter because youtube is owned by google. So there is no difference.."

Randell said...

I don't think the fact that google owns youtube matter much in this article. They are two different entity as far as the web users are concerned.

And who cares if they doing different thing. Traffic is the single currency on the web that can be compared. I could be doing a cat dog website, but if that drive millions of traffic to my website, I will be seen as competitor to the big boys.

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Jiang said...

I suggest Alexa stop allowing comments on its blog.

Most of the comments above are manual spam imposting as generic replies.

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As long as they remove all comments with external links, it should be alright. Linking to your Blogger's profile isn't a problem.

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